Creation for Liberation Podcast
By Chetna Mehta
Hosted by Chetna Mehta, founding artist and facilitator of Mosaiceye, with guests that will ignite and invite you to make, move and manifest your liberation, for a world of compassion and connection, one creation at a time.
www.mosaiceyeunfolding.com/podcast
Creation for Liberation PodcastApr 23, 2024
E24. The Liberation of “No Choice,” Surrendering & Radical Love w/ Lama Rod Owens
In this episode, Lama Rod and Chetna talk about:
What liberation smells like, sounds like, feels like and looks like for Lama Rod from both an abstract and embodied experience
Contentment and acceptance alongside the wrongness, suffering and crisis of the world
The subtle practice of “holding the chaos and crisis, instead of the chaos and crisis holding you”
Holding space for everything that’s arising is still feeling the chaos and tension, feeling our hearts breaking and enraging, and also still being connected to the space that’s holding us and everything
Reacting to everything may create more harm, and gives little space to respond
The choicefulness and consent of this practice
Chetna references Dylan McGarry’s art that speaks to how to hold ourselves and each other accountable requires holding
Accountability is meeting the reality, showing up and telling the truth
We have to confront our personal broken-heartedness as an expression of the collective disappointment
Not giving in to everything being “too much”, letting things arise in the nature of one’s own mind
Liberation work is calling us to do what we thought was impossible
Lama Rod’s practice of “no choice” as a way to not bypass the work or give himself excuses
Chetna’s relation to this with choosing to be in recovery, and having chosen “no choice” when it comes to engaging with certain substances
The necessity of “no choice” despite our human shit, to eliminate complexity and not enabling ourselves to get out of the work
Boundaries as a way to maintain discipline and dedication in the face of difficulty
“No choice” as conducive for empowerment, balance and liberation
On the other side of some rigidity, hard choices is discomfort is space, like a crucible and the discomfort of alchemy
Seed processes and the struggle of a seed cracking open to sprout, and how it relates to our nature’s propensity to emerge through discomfort
Surrendering to the dark or the unclear, where our awareness isn’t and where there are narratives of danger
Lama Rod’s relationship to the energetic of depression, and the medicine of surrendering to get close to the depression and see what it needed
The darkness is asking to be tended to, and the need to offer care to the things we’re afraid of
Pressing down, avoiding and pressurizing the darkness before it leaves us without choice due it’s need to be released
Depression as a portal to liberation, love and compassion when we sit down and ask what it needs and why it’s here
Tending to the darkness softens our hearts and reduces the isolation
The advanced practice of loving the things we’re most afraid of
The distinction between love and like; wanting someone to be free and resourced even if I don’t want them to be my friend
If someone, or a collective of people were free and getting what they needed, what harm would that prevent?
Trying to love in this way has to come after we spend time with the rage, fear, grief
The coexistence of loving someone (and understanding that they deserve to be free) and being pissed off at them too
How this could allow us to take less personally our anger without it overtaking us or making it wrong in us
The Love is what holds the space, the watery Love sets the boundaries for the fire of anger without repressing it or letting it overtake or spread wildly
You can sometimes help someone be free by staying out the way, and whatever we do in Love is helpful
The apocalypse as something that’s been around for centuries, not just our lifetime or our disruption
The apocalypse has been experienced by many different communities across time; this can allow us to zoom out beyond the confines of our lives
This is a time of decolonization, when we are dealing with the wounds of colonialism
Abolition as a way of healing to abolish the systems that perpetuate violence
The pain and suffering of individualism that narrows our realities and produces isolation and separation, which is a root of colonialism
Decolonization is really about community; Loving people without feeling like we need to like them and holding chaos are ways to decolonize and be in community
This work is both personal and collective; us as individuals have to name the experience of our pain, and our ancestors pain, in order to abolish and heal the pain of the collective
Remembering who we were before systems of oppression is hard work; the cellular structure of our hearts proves our capacity to return to who we were born as
We have to grieve our way back, for our ancestors and ourselves, in order to move forward
The importance of unwounding our hearts to be present in community more and in this liberation work
Find more:
Lama Rod online: lamarod.com
Lama Rod on IG @lamarodofficial
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Reclaiming Creativity Workshop with Kripalu. Embodying BHAKTI: The Yoga of Love - a series for women and non-binary activists (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
Work 1:1 with Chetna for high-achieving changemakers to get out of your heads and into embodied creative alchemy (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E23. Trusting the Muse in Creative Practice with Feroza Cayetano
In this episode, Feroza and Chetna talk about:
The creative process being a spiritual one, and how honoring that is transcending the inner critic that says “you’re a fraud”
Feroza’s relationship with her creative muse
Creativity rising up in her like water that have to be poured out based on experiencing a lot of emotions
Creativity also rising up in her when her muse comes gently knocking
Developing a relationship with her muse where there is a trust and patience
Honoring her body’s request to make music, even though “no one is asking for it”
Her joining Creative Somatic Alchemy which was a journey back to her creativity and herself after a medical trauma
The impact of community connection in her creative practice
Negotiating with her muse, speaking to her nicely, and treating her well
Revolving her life around her intuition and honoring that there’s always time to pause
Setting herself up to have no excuse to pause by walking with a notebook and pen to honor the whisperings
The felt sense of music from her muse and music from her mind, based on the sensations in her body and emotions
Creating music that invites people to feel, and recognizing that many people aren’t ready or willing to go there
She asks the question, “what does your soul say?” “what does your heart say”, and focuses on offering her music to folks who are thirsty for this
The important activism in art that invites us to feel and rest, to give water to the fire of the world
Her experience with Mosaiceye community as her fellow witches and unicorns, and what it helped steward in her to create differently than she has before
Being held in graceful accountability made her want to be herself even when she felt sad, how it helped her be honest
The challenge and beauty of sharing music and watching folks listen, receiving affirmation and being together in it
The permission to play and flow with herself and within her collaborations
Grace and grit being invitations she took on and accepted from her learnings
Taking generative space from creative practice, whether it be music, ceramics, relating and conversing; to rest and give space for divine alchemy to have a hand
Bringing open experimental energy to creative practice like Dee Dee from Dexter’s Lab (lol)
The difference between “passion” and doing what she needs to do, because “I am, therefore I create.”
The deeper we get in touch with our creativity the more likely we’ll be disrupting systems that oppress our creativity, and we need community to do this hard work and play.
From Feroza:
Feroza on Substack for stories and musings behind the songs (ferozacayetano.substack.com)
Feroza’s BandCamp: https://ferozacayetano.bandcamp.com/music
Feroza on IG @feroza.cayetano (instagram.com/feroza.cayetano)
The songs played: “Bring Me Back” and “human, pt. ii”
From Mosaiceye:
The 3-month Creative Somatic Alchemy (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents/creativealchemy)
The 4-month Conscious Creators program (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents/consciouscreators)
The River Membership Community - launching with the Summer Solstice! (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/theriver)
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The Chetna Unfolding newsletter on Substack (chetnaunfolding.substack.com)
Other offerings:
- Upcoming Events: Welcome Spring 2024: an Intention-Refreshing workshop; Reclaiming Creativity Workshop with Kripalu; Embodying Bhakti: The Yoga of Love - a series for women and non-binary activists (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
- Work 1:1 with Chetna for high-achieving changemakers to get out of your heads and into embodied creative alchemy (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E22. Hope, Peace and Solidarity with Ameera and Noa of Tomorrow’s Women
In this episode, Ameera and Noa talk with Chetna about:
What life is like lately for each of them at the time of recording this conversation at the end of February, around 140 days after October 7th
What “peace” means to each of them today, alongside the violence that they’re actively threatened by daily
How Ameera holds the human need to defend and protect against violence while working for peace
Why each of them are committed to the work and mission of Tomorrow’s Women
Ameera’s background in joining the organization for cross-border collaboration when she was a teenager
How their empathetic and connecting conversations give them both resilience and hope in humanity despite the violence
What they each want us as activists outside of Palestine and Israel to be aware of and how to be supportive in this time of crisis
How they keep hope when the war goes on and people lose faith in the future
Find:
Tomorrow’s Women online via their website
Art to benefit the mission of Tomorrow’s Women
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The Chetna Unfolding newsletter on Substack (chetnaunfolding.substack.com)
Other offerings:
- Upcoming Events: Welcome Spring 2024: an Intention-Refreshing workshop; Reclaiming Creativity Workshop with Kripalu; Embodying Bhakti: The Yoga of Love - a series for women and non-binary activists
- Work 1:1 with Chetna for high-achieving changemakers to get out of your heads and into embodied creative alchemy
E21. Inquiries Beyond Binaries About Peace in These Times ft. HawaH Kasat
In this episode, Chetna shares:
The Chetna Unfolding newsletter where she’s been publishing more recently about longing and depression as portals, second arrow suffering, the addiction to binary thinking, and more
Ahimsa and nonviolence, and the confusing contemplation about what peace means today
The day count and loss of 30,000 Palestinian lives, 1,400 Israeli lives, and uncountable plant and animals lives taken by genocide
An introduction of Hawah Kasat, an award-winning educator, community organizer and yogi among other things
HawaH talking about “negative peace” and “positive peace”
How the negative/positive peace binary helps her understand to some degree, but also has its limitations
HawaH talking about the nuance of nonviolence
Binary-thinking as a strategy to make quick moves in a panic
The illusionary clarity of binary-thinking that leaves little room for nuance and complexity
How relying on panic to carry us forward f*cks us over even more by fueling even more panic and suffering.
The distracting suffocating binary of enough and not enough in regards to our activism
The present-traumatic stress caused by over-consuming media
How there is no one-right way and to believe and assert on others that there is one right way to think, to be, to act right now may be a perpetuation of domination and separation
- The inquiry: “how can I expect to steward- from my dysregulated nervous system- a New Earth that’s wholly different from the one built by dysregulated nervous systems?”
The inquiry: “how can I- and we- be influences of change in the world without perpetuating colonial cultures of separation and domination?”
The inquiry: “how can I expect to disrupt the cycles of trauma and fear when I’m acting from my trauma and fear?”
Her desire to normalize when and what we don’t actually know…and to open to the possibilities of connection and healing in that unknown.
Find:
HawaH’s website: hawah.us
HawaH on IG @hawahkasat
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The Chetna Unfolding newsletter on Substack (chetnaunfolding.substack.com)
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Welcome Spring 2024: an Intention-Refreshing workshop. Embodying Bhakti: The Yoga of Love - a series for women and non-binary activists
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E20. The Role of the Artist and Channeling Divine Illumination with James McCrae
In this episode, James and Chetna talk about:
Art as alchemy and permission to be bold and expressed
The importance of leaning into creativity during these times of violence, multiple genocides and divisiveness
How art is often born out of suffering, and how James’ creativity is fueled by grappling, pain and what feels hard to make sense of
Turning the pain, the lead, into beauty or gold; releasing or purging sadness through liberating art
Art as a service to ourselves to transmute, and offering a light to others who need it too
How art has been and can be an agent of change, revolution, and liberation
Creativity representing sovereign consciousness and our ability to respond
In times of conflict, different people have different roles, and the role of the artist is to offer better alternatives and plan visions and dreams in the collective consciousness
Owning the art that feels good for each of us, and letting ourselves be in the front row seat to our art and process, is important for the abundance and prosperity of our creativity
Artists are there to remind us that we have sovereignty over our own consciousness, and give permission to listen to the callings within us that might be oppressed in our society and culture
Rising in our leadership and being the leaders we want to see and stop looking for institutional validation, that could mean being of service to the people immediately around us
The Human mind as an amazing tool, but not the only tool; and how we need both the head and heart, facts and feelings
James’ creative process beginning in his emotions and bodies, and his ideas coming downstream from his emotions
The head and the ego being great to edit, craft or finish and launch a project
The Yin and Yang of the creative process, and need to stop repressing the Yin and feminine energy
The need of an awakening of the Goddess within all of us, and return to intuition to guide us
How individual creativity comes from balancing the divine and masculine energies
Creativity as a spiritual practice, and the magic of creating something out of nothing
We’re all baby Gods creating things from imaginations that are portals to other dimensions
Listening to the whispers to birth mystical illuminations in everything that we make
How the Muse is attracted to dedication, devotion and discipline
Find:
James’ website: www.jamesmccrae.com including his new book, The Art of You (jamesmccrae.com/the-art-of-you)
James on IG @wordsarevibrations
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Conscious Creators Launch Program and Alchemizing the Inner Critic Series starting in January (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
Organizational Engagements: to bring purpose, creativity and embodied workshops to your team (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/organizational)
E19. Longing is a Portal to Purpose
In this episode, Chetna talks about:
Some of Chetna’s recent longings
The pain and ache of longing, and the inevitability of it as humans
The distinction between the content of our longings and Longing itself
The human tendency to chase after the longings, as symbolized by hungry ghosts
The clarity, awe, love and truth that comes with being with longing, especially in community
How contemporary and ancient mystics, from Rumi and Hafiz to John O’Donohue and Michael Mead have recognized the power and portals of longing
How our heart’s longing can lift our chins up to our north stars, our purpose and highest values
The interconnection between longing, desire and needs, values
The shame that comes up with honoring our longing amidst the oppressive systems we live in
The invitation be with our longing, to look beneath the content of our longings, and let it inform and illuminate the way, and to do so in community
How now is the urgent time to be in alignment with our values and purpose. To center our heart wisdom and guiding principles amidst all the darkness and suffering in the world.
Mentioned Resources:
“Longing as a Portal” on Substack
Subscribe to join the next Alchemy Circle
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: the 4-month Conscious Creators Launch Program for women and non-binary changemakers
You Are Chosen: a free 5-day practice in choosing yourself and being divinely chosen
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast (with guests) to watch on youtube
E18. The Great Joys in Partnership, Care & Purpose with Madame Gandhi
In this episode, Kiran and Chetna talk about:
Kiran’s partnership being a space where she could be her full, queer, androgynous self in her vulnerabilities and wins
Morning meditation with Deepak Chopra and Oprah as a way to reset, start the day positively, take responsibility for her self-rhetoric, and get herself ready to step out into the world
The practice in partnership of separating behavior that’s not loving from the deeper truth of care and love for you
A reframe on projection as a space to learn when we can own it; the person we project on is illuminating something within us that we need to look at
Being aware of our menstrual cycles, moon cycles, etc. to take responsibility for our moods and feelings
Leading with the underlying assumptions of the great joys of love, care, and growth mindset
Modeling the behavior in relationship that you seek
The art of asking for what you need, and the art of giving it or not if it’s not within capacity
Experiences that might have contribute to us not being able to ask for our needs; others receiving those needs as something bad, or feeling shame after asking for your needs from someone who was misaligned
We’re teaching other people how to care for us by asking for our needs
Being in the practice of meeting our own needs, and tapping our communities for care also
Speaking your needs and giving the other person the opportunity to rise to opportunity to win, the ask, and the invitation to give
Some of Kiran’s daily practices that help her stay on the path of purpose: making her bed, morning meditation, making a matcha, morning pages
Self-respect through discipline and showing up
The necessity and importance of taking the time to connect to ourselves, especially in the world where there’s so much that takes us away from ourselves
The healing opportunity in people who are different or expressing themselves in big ways; showing us what’s possible!
Being accessible in her self-expression through empathy, shared leadership, warmth, and awareness of others through eye contact, thoughtful conversations, meaningful engagements with presence
“Bad habits” being a way to cope or get a deep need met; i.e. smoking tied to easing the mother wound, for nourishment, sustenance, and connection which feels more accessible than connecting with people.
“Bad habits” coming from a deeper need for care, but in a way that aren’t beneficial for us or others
Music as an audio timestamp of emotion, amplifying sincerity in music-making
Some of Kiran’s “bad habits” like eating badly, drinking too much, etc.
Her desire to meet the root cause without the distractions by eliminating alcohol, being plant-based, and meditating
Understanding the depth of the pain as a way to amplify the joy
Emotions as currency that we can create from, feed ourselves from, etc.
The self-respect of restraint (like bumper lanes on a bowling alley), boundaries, and what you do when no one is around
Her work as healing; finding her way into healing by doing her work of service and purpose
Her attraction to people who are strong in their feminine, a divine mother queen despite gender, and learning this from gay men and trans women
Her going on tour doing a strong feminine show that is her dream show that she’s always wanted to watch
Find:
Kiran’s website including her upcoming tour schedule: madamegandhi.com
Madame Gandhi on IG @madamegandhi
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Clarifying your North Star Workshop on 11/11 (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
You Are Chosen: a free 5-day practice in choosing yourself and being divinely chosen (https://chetnamehta.myflodesk.com/chosen)
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E17. Freedom, Indigeneity and Multi-Dimensionality in Therapy with Luis Cornejo
In this episode, Luis and Chetna talk about:
Luis’s journey of sharing more of himself in his work, claiming himself as a model, playing with make-up and being free
Going from a stable and “successful” job at Kaiser to a queer-centric and indigenizing therapeutic practice
Sharing himself authentically in room as a therapist with his clients
Luis’s journey of identifying as an indigenous person through the shame, taboo and grief
The messages and stories in his family about what it means to be indigenous, the othering of indigenous people of Oaxaca while using aspects of their culture
Bringing his background into therapy, the complex grief around identity and reclamation
The universal practices of humming as nervous system regulation
Bringing in Quitapenas or “worry dolls” as an offering in his therapy practice with relevant clients despite his initial doubts and fears of what’s “ethical” or “valid”
The lack of acknowledgement and co-opting of indigenous culture, art and practices, even with “evidence-based” modalities
The intimate act of discovering ourselves, coming out as ourselves, being seen and allowing ourselves to not be seen
Being ‘out of hiding” is a daily practice, and how “hiding” sometimes is for protection
How Luis protects his inner child as he lives out and proud and freely authentic
Find:
Luis’s websites: www.psychosocialtherapy.com, psychosocial.media
Luis’s Queer Magic Podcast: luis-cornejo.com/queermagicpodcast
Luis on IG @luis_thee_lmft
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Boundaries for Peace Support Group (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
You Are Chosen: a free 5-day practice in choosing yourself and being divinely chosen
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E16. Reclaiming Our Story and Welcoming All Our Parts (and Money) with Ruthie Lindsey
In this episode, some of what Ruthie and Chetna talk about:
Ruthie’s soul’s work and dharma to welcome and love all the parts of us, including those that have been shamed or rejected
Ruthie’s story of being hit by an ambulance, being hospitalized for a month and getting a wire implanted in her spinal cord infusion
Growing up as a sweet Southern girl and her doing everything she had to do for belonging and love
Her being disassociated and numbing with food and screens, as a way to stay on the planet early on
Doctors putting Ruthie on the highest level of narcotics to cope with pain that they later discovered to be a broken wire piercing her brainstem
Living in a bed for 7 years in debilitating pain and addiction until her husband left and her father passed away
Her gratitude for a breakdown that happened and got her out of bed to start living again in 2013
A period of time when Ruthie was wanting to die due the debilitating pain she was always living with
Her work now is inviting and welcoming pain when it visits, affirming with others that “it’s not the end of your story”, that transformation and healing is possible
Grieving who she thought she was and what she thought her life would be like, including having many children, which is not part of her current reality
The practice of “being with”, with whatever pain or pleasure comes up, all of it getting to be here without being denied, then it transmutes and transforms, and love gets to drive
Choosing love, forgetting and then remembering, and choosing love again
Ruthie saying “the pain is visiting me” versus “I am in pain”, to acknowledge that the pain comes and goes
The parable of the 2nd arrow: the first arrow being the circumstances and realities of our lives, and the 2nd arrow being the shame, resistance and judgment of the first arrow
Ruthie sharing Dr. Hilary McBride and her framework of 7 core emotions (anger, disgust, excitement, desire/sexual excitement, joy, fear, sadness)
The “inhibitory emotions” we create (shame, anxiety and guilt) to keep us from feeling any “bad” core emotions, that are “check- engine lights” giving us information about what needs to be felt
Then we numb our inhibitory emotions with additions to avoid feeling those
Social anxiety coming up as a “check-engine light” for Chetna saying that she’s trying to be like others or match the energy of others
Noticing how we feel certain emotions in our bodies through noticing its sensations, temperature, textures, colors and the emotions underneath the sensations
Being in our bodies allows us to be here now, connected to the oneness of everything around us, how embodiment will change the world because you can’t hate another when you’re in love and in your body
Ruthie going beyond the pain story into her excitement for remembering and reclaiming our divinity because we exist!
Her obsession with studying sacred sexuality, reclaiming pleasure, and challenging purity culture and patriarchy!
Her passion about money consciousness and getting more money in conscious women’s hands!
Giving money and energy of blessing, welcoming and stewardship
Ruthie sharing her learning with Kate Northrup about how lack stories and welcoming money is about regulating the nervous system
Honoring and blessing the small things to show the universe that she’s capable of honoring and blessing the bigger things that could transform the world
Find:
Ruthie’s website: ruthielindsey.com
Ruthie on IG @ruthielindsey
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Upcoming Events: Creative Somatic Alchemy, SA Femme Disruptors Reflection Group, and Boundaries for Peace Support Group (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
Work 1:1 with Chetna for self-trust, creative reclamation and divine aligning (chetnamehta.co/sessions)
E15. Magic Beyond Logic
In this episode, Chetna shares about:
- The safety of relying on logic
- The willingness to be open to possibilities beyond logic
- A practice that allows us to consult with our mind and our heart wisdom
- The inner critic living in the mind
- The importance of movement (getting the heart rate up) to be able to consult with the heart
- The ancient intelligence of the heart
- Examples of folks moving through hard things like death/loss, breakups, betrayal and other transitions with the guidance and connection to heart wisdom, intuition and grace
Spaces for collective practice, play and alchemizing:
- CREATIVE SOMATIC ALCHEMY: a 3-month program for women and non-binary changemakers starting September to create, embody and alchemize together
- SOUTH ASIAN FEMME DISRUPTORS: a 12-week reflection group starting in September to be in embodied contemplation together with themes of identity, relationship, casteism and anti-Blackness, sexuality and body sovereignty
- BOUNDARIES FOR PEACE: a 4-month support group for women and non-binary changemakers to practice identifying, communicating and maintaining boundaries that support peace, love and freedom
- CREATIVE ALCHEMY 1:1 SESSIONS: to live beyond logic and conjure your magic
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
E14. Mixed Identity & Possibility with Dance with Megan Lowe
In this episode, Megan and Chetna talk about:
- What dance means to Megan, a way to relate to the world, to space and other bodies, and self-express beyond what people assume
- How in her body and Asian identity, she’s explored her physical strength through movement practices
- Breaking through walls of expectation through exploring movement through the body
- Going beyond the rigid way of what “dance” is commonly looked at within performance, production or a certain body type
- Megan’s emphasis on individual bodies and the histories, modalities and passions that each individual has, as opposed to doing it a certain way
- Contact improvisation as a way to connect to one’s own body and other bodies
- The importance of deep listening and asking for communication, making invitation in contact improv dance
- Deep listening with living and inanimate objects is part of Megan’s practice
- A way to develop this deep listening, even today, is noticing how your body interacts with the space and objects around you, noticing what it’s like to send your energy into an object, whether it’s your laptop or phone, or the trees outside, the seat your in
- Taking movement classes and contact improv help with this deep listening of your body and your surroundings
- The intimacy of deep listening with dance, to oneself- into me I see- and those in shared space
- Megan’s practice of building intimacy with her collaborators by prioritizing relationships full of respect, generosity, gratitude, trust in her dance-making
- Megan’s “Gathering Pieces of Piece” project being a culmination of her contemplations in her life thus far about the liminal space of being mixed Chinese and Irish
- Her tattoo with half of the Chinese symbol for “peace” being a mark of her identity
- The ways we mark our identities with tattoos, how we dress, our rituals and routines, etc.
- The experience of liminality that Chetna has experienced as a third culture kid; one being between a beautiful artist retreat with folks feeling comfortable being naked at her lake swimming together, and living at home with her South Asian parents
- Contact improv being a way to meet the primal need of platonic and attuned touch
- The importance of moving the body as a way for expression and creation
Find:
- Megan’s website: www.MeganLoweDances.com
- More about "Gathering Pieces of Peace"
- Megan on IG @MLoweDanceKitty
- Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
- The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
- Organizational Offerings: bring a mindful and expressive arts engagement to your people
- Upcoming Events: Creative Somatic Alchemy and SA Femme Disruptors Reflection Group
- Work 1:1 with Chetna for creative reclamation and authentic expression
E13. Authenticity, "Ugly" Art, and Sharing Online with Hana Shafi
In this episode, Hana and Chetna talk about:
Resistance and activism through frizzy hair
Creating new worlds through visual art; drawing what we want to see in the world, from cool fashion to authentic femininity
Clothes as wearable art yet co-opted by capitalism that make it seem frivolous
The paradox in Hana’s art between colorful and vibrant and dark and creepy
The power in what is deemed as “ugly”
Showing the unpleasant parts of humanness, like squeezing zits!
Hana’s fear of clowns and drawing jester archetypes
Going to various phases of mediums in art-making
Hana’s love for Shakespeare and the value of the wise fool
Making art that scares us is channeling our disruptor/tricker energy
How Hana’s has drawn from her mental illness in her drawing, from literal depictions to more dualistic expressions
The paradox and appeal of upbeat or vibrant art that’s also speaking to deeper issues like addiction and mental illness
The importance of art that reflects multiple realities
Creating art for yourself to validate your own experience and being in community with your own art
The acceptance that not everyone is going to be a masterpiece, it’s okay to experiment with different artistic mediums or processes
The struggle of performativity on social media
The proverb of “if a tree falls and no one hears it, did it really fall” and how it applies to our art-making practice
Recognizing that we are being witnessed by more than the human world, but by the trees and bees and life all around us, including ancestors, spirit, etc… and that can be enough!
The significance of art that takes a long time to create, unlike AI art, it’s more than “content creation”
Sharing from a place of safety and generativity, versus pressure or obligation
Being mindful with how we consume art, and how we’re consumed from to avoid being extractive in how we consume art or expect from artists
Letting ourselves have an eb and flow with our mediums, without adhering to “consistency” if that isn’t happening
Francisco Goya as a muse in shifting our vibe and energy in our works as artists
Cycling through styles and mediums of art-making is normal and natural
The creativity within you is worthy to be expressed and freed!
Find:
Hana’s IG @frizzkidart and her multi-disciplinary work
Hana’s Patreon (www.patreon.com/frizzkidart)
Hana’s books on Amazon (https://tinyurl.com/3syfbhmj)
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Organizational Wellness: bring a mindful and expressive arts engagement to your people (www.mosaiceyeunfolding.com/organizational)
Upcoming Events: Embodied Compassion, Creative Somatic Alchemy, SA Femme Disruptors Reflection Group (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/communityevents)
Work 1:1 with Chetna for creative reclamation and authentic expression (mosaiceyeunfolding.com/oneonone)
E12. Living the Questions in Decolonizing Art, Medicine & Landback Movements w/ Rupa Marya
In this episode, Rupa and Chetna talk about:
- How her upbringing supported and didn’t support her creativity
- Being in a fallow period with music-making
- Processing grief with the lives lost and fundamental shifts after Covid
- The artist process, with music and healing, being one of sitting and listening, integrating and express at the edge of the unknown
- The Deep Medicine Circle’s landback work, evolving with questions that challenge the bounds of imagination within structures of capitalism and ideas of private property
- Insisting upon listening and living into the questions, even without answers as a way to be with the realities of the planet
- Bringing elders into the work to discuss and interrogate with
- Questions around both settler and native communities’ responsibilities in landback initiatives
- Moving beyond purity politics to be with the questions to think and be differently in urgent times
- Talking to the land and ocean, giving gratitude to them for the children and the songs, as a way of being receptive and living in relationship to the being informing her
- Being in relationship with the land and beings around her, she hears music everywhere
- Integrating the practice of being in relationship with the land into her art of medicine and healing with folks; situating them in the space they’re in beside the mountains and bay, and building compost piles with frontline workers
- Transforming trauma that’s triggered and inflamed by crises like Covid, with making something beautiful out of rotten material
- Frontline workers experiencing less resources and more burnout
- Sitting with the wisdom of liminal spaces
- Rupa’s vision for the practice of Western Medicine in the U.S.; the low-bar as health care for all, and the high-bar is creating inclusive systems of care
- “Medicine” overall as everything that makes you feel good…
- “Art” as lived practice…
- Decolonizing medicine as undoing the structures of colonialism, and engaging in political education
- How Rupa navigates education away from social media with her children
- The world requiring a kind of creativity that will expand our ways of knowing and learning, and not letting anyone reduce us to being just one thing other that our multiplicity
Find:
- Rupa’s website and her multi-disciplinary work
- The Deep Medicine Circle
- Rupa and Raj’s book, Inflamed: Deep Medicine and the Anatomy of Injustice
- Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
- The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
- Organizational Wellness: bring a mindful and expressive arts engagement to your people
- Upcoming Events: Boundaries for Peace, Embodied Compassion, Creative Somatic Alchemy, SA Femme Disruptors Reflection Group
- Work 1:1 with Chetna for creative reclamation and authentic expression
E11. Decolonizing & Interdependent Belonging with Kelsey Blackwell
In this episode, Kelsey and Chetna talk about:
- What “decolonizing” means to Kelsey
- Holding the both/and of being a settler and belonging on a particular land
- Cultivating belonging within oneself and with the larger earth community
- Honoring the truth of interdependence as a way to fostering belonging
- Practices of connecting with the earth and “offering breath” and care
- Kelsey’s tree friends and how she never feels lonely
- The loss that comes with birthing our publishing a creative project like a book
- Allowing our art to be for us first, savoring the process as a way to take the outcome off a pedestal
- Sharing art as a love language, as a way to give gift, and letting those who want it to receive it (and those who don’t to not)
- Cycles of nature and creativity in the excitement of inception, the pain of the fallow period, and the stretching of sharing
- Self-compassion in the writing process, and other practices that worked for Kelsey to show up day after day in her writing
- Encouragement to write a book if you have the longing to write a book
Find:
- Kelsey on IG @decolonizingthebody and online
- Kelsey’s program on Decolonizing the Body and her book with the same name
- Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
- The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
- Organizational Wellness: bring a mindful and expressive arts engagement to your people
- Boundaries for Love: A 4-Month Support Group for Women & Non-Binary femmes
- Work 1:1 with Chetna for creative reclamation and authentic expression
E10. Ego & Control in Creative Process with Amit Pagedar
In this episode, Amit and Chetna talk about:
Putting ourselves in roles or boxes with the labels and identifiers we use to introduce ourselves
How the ego relates to over-identification and control
Defending our ideas and needing to protect them as a cause of suffering
The ego’s need for security and its nature of insecurity
Compassion for the ego and how it tries to help us be secure
Finding security and connection beyond the ego by discovering what wants to come through us in this life
Amit’s concept of “drift” as our inclinations/instincts and to practice it with devotion
Self-forgetfulness and transcending ego
The practice of collaborating with (rather than controlling) flow as a way of decolonizing creativity
Listening as an essential part of creative process, and honing our sensitivity to get to the subtlety of experience
Perfectionism versus self-defined excellence
The art of the subconscious as intuition and intuition in the body
Ego’s tendency to what to “know” and “understand” as a way of control
Creativity even as an expression of play without knowing or understanding, without trying to control it
The balance of trying less versus forcing, and the yin/yang of showing up to try less
Find:
Amit on IG @findingawareness or online
Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
The podcast to watch on youtube
Other offerings:
Organizational Wellness: bring a mindful and expressive arts engagement to your people
Boundaries for Love: A 4-Month Support Group for Women & Non-Binary femmes
Work 1:1 with Chetna for creative reclamation and authentic expression
Season 2 is Coming
Yo! Peace and warmth good people. It’s about to be Season two/dos/be/do/due of the Creation for Liberation podcast!
I’m really leaning into the process of experimentation here, which is what I see creativity as. And in this season, we’re centering conversations with creators and liberators at the intersections of art, education, medicine, yoga, spirituality, science, somatics, social justice and more.
Stay tuned for our first episode and conversation of the season coming out with April full moon. Follow us on IG @creationforliberation, on youtube @mosaiceye and on your favorite podcast app @ Creation for Liberation Podcast to be notified when new episodes come out!
Thanks so much for listening and sharing y’all! I hope this gets your creative juices flowing freely! Much love!
Music: Blood Moon by Pawan Krishna
E9. Decolonizing Creativity is Being in Right Relationship
Welcome to the final episode of season 1 y'all! What fun experiment this podcast has been and we're ending with some quality conversation and wisdom from two new and lovely friends, Hitoko Okada and Inez Inok't.
Some of what we get into:
- Hitoko's background as a lineage craft and textile artist and community arts facilitator
- Inez's background as a muralist, mother and indigineous activist
- Decolonizing as a living and breathing practice of being in right relationship with everything
- Colonial history as it relates to textiles, cotton and the transatlantic slave trade
- Indigo dying as a spiritual practice of surrender and collaboration
- How being in right relationship with money, for example, is being in right relationship with cotton and seed
- How "the revolution will not be televised" relates to decolonization not being a performance, show or perhaps even a metaphor
Offerings:
- Check out our upcoming community circles
- Learn more about organizational wellness programming
Reach out:
- Hitoko Okada: website and instagram
- Inez Inok't: instagram and tiktok
- Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
Quick update: Checking in with y'all
Just checking in with y'all on a few updates since we've been away from the podcast for awhile. Thanks for listening to the unfolding of the Creation for Liberation pod, y’all. So cool! Stay tuned within the month for the final episode of season 1.
We love you!!!
Upcoming events:
- Our series of IG LIVE conversations on funk and love, liberation through birthing, compassionate art, and rejection and resilience among others
- MOSAICEYE EVOLUTION CELEBRATION! Virtually this Saturday the 25th @ 10am PT and locally in Berkeley on July 17th
- We’re meeting up at PRIDE SF, join us!!
- Creative Sangha: group meditation for creatives (monthly, next one is June 27th)
- Freedom Circle: an expressive movement workshop coming up in Oakland (Saturday, July 16th*) and Denver (Sunday, August 7th)
Reach out:
- Connect with Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
- We’re on TIK TOK @mosaiceyeunfolding with the intention of FREEDOM
- Develop or embody any of the practices discussed by us by bringing a workshop to your organization and/or people
E8. Excavating Our Creativity is a Social Responsibility
In this episode, we get into:
- The inspiration of folks fasting for Ramadan and increasing their God consciousness
- The intention of sharing and inviting you into the 3-Month Abundant Creativity Excavation Program
- When the program began and how it’s grown to 200+ alumni across the globe
- How we use language to open up new worlds for ourselves
- The definition of “creativity” and how problematic it is
- What creativity is, beyond being intellectual, “original” or for production
- Aluma, Toni shares about her journey out of the corporate world and claiming her title of “creative”
- Alumna, Samidha acknowledges how we aren’t educated in this way to challenge the definitions of creativity for liberation
- Alumna, Iara talks about giving the inner critic space
- Samidha reflects about the program’s education around the inner child and teen was trauma-informed
- Toni shares how liberating her inner child and teen through the program
- Iara reflects about how the inner nurturer relates to self-trust and intuition
- Excavating our creativity is a social responsibility that we are individually responsible for while we practice in community
- Iara and Samidha reflect on what the community has meant to them
- Toni and Iara share about what it’s like to be in alum and engaged in the mastermind groups for continual support and collective accountability
Find details about the Abundant Creativity program, the application and more here.
Upcoming events:
- Creative Sangha: group meditation for creatives (monthly)
- Freedom Circle: an expressive movement workshop in Oakland (May 14th)
Reach out:
- Learn more and connect with Toni Dawkins at www.tonidawkins.com / IG @intuitivetoni, Samidha at www.thesevawellness.com / IG @thesevawellness, and Iara Bloomz on IG @iara.bloomz
- Connect with Chetna on IG @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation
- Work 1:1 with Chetna if you’d like to develop more personally here or bring a workshop to your organization or team
E7. My Heart (Not My Mind) is My Master
In this episode, we vibe on:
- How in the midst of crisis and violence, it’s pertinent to take the time to love on and uplift the people around you, to check-in on them and know that that too is activism
- Heart intelligence from a yogic and ancient Egyptian perspective
- Research on the heart organ and it’s impactful communication with the brain
- The heart’s “little brain”
- Alyssa’s perspective of not shaming the mind’s tendency to overthink and giving the mind another role
- How putting the mind in the back seat helps Alyssa show up more fully in conversation or conflict
- Communication between the heart and mind as it relates to intuition
- The tendency of hyper-intellectualization and how it’s a safety strategy
- How hyper-intellectualization is reinforced in our western society
- Kalya’s story of listening to her body and clarifying what’s right for her
- Kayla recognizing the distinct experiences of when the mind is overpowering and when she listens to her body and makes space for her blooming intuition
- Moving out of the “gerbil wheel” by 1. Noticing when the mind is taking over, and how the practices of mindfulness and meditation are significant 2. Taking action by moving our body, creating something, focusing on others in curiosity, or taking one small step toward a dream
- Being kind and compassionate with ourselves as we engage in this practice and radical way of being by moving at the pace of our bodies as opposed to the social norms around us
Learn more about our Organizational Wellness offerings for your teams or groups
Upcoming events:
- Creative Sangha: group meditation for creatives (monthly)
- 10-Week Support Group for Desi women to cultivate liberation beyond inter-generational patriarchy
Reach out:
- Learn more about Alyssa Smaldino here: livingcities.org/people/alyssa-smaldino, via email (alyssa.smaldino@gmail.com) or IG @alyssasmaldino
- Connect with Kayla Mehjabin Parr via IG @kaylamehjabin_
- Find Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
- Work 1:1 with Chetna if you’d like to develop or embody any of the practices
E6. I Don't Know and In That, I'm Free
In this episode, we get into:
- The inspirations of Morning Pages and Evening pages and its effects on sleep and mental clarity
- The inspiration of the Devotion Chart and the Aluna Method by Juliana Luna
- How “knowing” provides us with safety, control and security
- The type of “knowing” that’s valued in our colonial culture
- Some history of human rationalism and its effects today
- How “knowing” doesn’t serve us, our curiosity, collaboration or presence
- A trip that resulted in Chetna realizing how much she doesn’t know without guilt or shame
- Questions about the possibilities that we may access if we allowed ourselves to not know
- A personal story of when Chetna reached a point of surrender (as shared in the Moon Times Digest on the same topic)
Upcoming events:
- Creative Sangha: group meditation for creatives (monthly)
- Reclaiming Creativity Workshop for women + non-binary folks
- 10-Week Support Group for Desi women to cultivate liberation beyond inter-generational patriarchy
Reach out:
- Follow Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
Work 1:1 with Chetna if you’d like to develop or embody any of the practices
E5. Reclaiming Discipline Reinforces My Self-Trust
In this episode, we get into:
- Gratitude for you as a listener, reviewer, giver of your valued attention to this podcast, thank you!
- The western definition of “discipline”
- How Yoga sees discipline
- How Kung Fu sees discipline
- The balance and yin/yang of empowered discipline
- Reclaiming discipline as an empowering practice versus a punishing practice
- Using words that resonate with us
- Taking the struggle out of our practice
- Realizing how and what we ARE actually disciplined toward so we can CHOOSE what we want to be disciplined toward
- Approaching our discipline with playfulness
- The discipline/devotion chart tool for colorful, tactile inspiration and feedback
- How discipline/devotion/commitment puts us in the driver’s seat of our lives
- How discipline/devotion/commitment fortifies our inner nurturer/parent
Free resources:
- The 30-minute Skillshare class on Cultivating Creative Discipline
- Templates for the devotion chart and more
Upcoming events:
- The Mission Statement Workshop for creatives
- Creative Sangha: group meditation for creatives (monthly)
- Energetic Boundaries Series for women + non-binary folks
- Reclaiming Creativity Workshop for women + non-binary folks
Reach out:
- Follow Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
- Work 1:1 with Chetna if you’d like to develop your empowered discipline
E4. My Inner Critic Has a Back Seat Only
In this episode, Chetna talks about:
- Two indigenous women-lead organizations that offer important resources for native and non-native folks: Spirit of the Sun and All My Relations Podcast
- What the inner critic is...
- Five traits and tendencies of the inner critic: 1. black or white thinking 2. motivating but actually invalidating 3. highly triggered by uncertainty 4. internalizing of oppressive value systems around us 5. hyper-protective based on the past
- Ways in which we respond automatically to the inner critic: fight, flight, freeze and appease
- The bold and uncertain nature of creative practice being a triggering space for the inner critic
- Two conscious ways to respond to the inner critic: 1. an embodied “no” 2. mindful consent
- Cultivating space through this practice for our wiser, kinder and higher voices
- Being embodied in order to access more of our own wisdom and power
- Doing the shadow work of giving the inner critic a back seat without letting it drive or navigate our lives
Free resources:
- The feelings wheel to help acknowledge the emotional impact of when the inner critic is present
- The t-chart template to give space in mindful consent to the inner critic and to our higher voices distinctly
Reach out:
- Learn about the 3-month Abundant Creativity program, applications are open for January 2022 cohorts
- Follow Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
E3. Intuition is an Embodied Collaboration
In this episode, we ponder on:
- The inspiration of Diwali and the new moon
- What intuition is from cognition and indigenous perspectives
- Knowing through “implicit knowledge”, “energetic sensitivity” and “nonlocal intuition” according to the HeartMath Institute
- Interconnection with nature as a way to tap into intuitive wisdom
- Mel Vargas sharing her ancestral dream and lifestyle rooted in intuition
- How intuition is an embodied experience
- Zamo Mji sharing her story of listening to the intuition of her body
- The significance of heart wisdom and intuition
- Systemic and personal barriers to intuition
- Intuition manifesting in the creative process
- Gigi Mascarenas sharing her experience of listening to the intuitive call to sing
- Some ways that Chetna practices honoring and amplifying intuition
Reach out:
- Learn about the 3-month Abundant Creativity program, applications open for January 2022 cohorts
- Follow Mel Vargas @mechitascollections, Zamo Mji @vizeeble, and Gigi Mascarenas
- Follow Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
E2. Self-Compassion Fosters Creation
In this episode, we get into:
- Supporting initiatives like the Sogorea Te' Land Trust to return indigenous land to indigenous people
- The relationship between self-compassion practices and creativity according to Chetna's experience
- The pillars of mindful self-compassion according to Kristin Neff and Chris Germer (mindfulness, self-kindness and common humanity)
- Mindfulness in creative practice with our critical inner voices, the systemic and colonial influences on our relationship to creativity, and the ways in which creativity exists all around us
- Self-kindness and how it can show up in creative practice
- Austin's perspective on the power of supportive community and space-making
- Our common humanity of egos, inner critics, trauma and inherent creativity
- What may happen physiologically and emotionally when we're not practicing self-compassion in our creative practice
Questions for reflection:
- What are the egoic, critical and colonial voices telling you in your creative practice? Where do you feel it in your body?
- What does your kind and compassionate voices tell you? How does it land in your body?
Reach out:
- Learn more about Austin Willacy's work and play on his site at www.austinwillacy.com
- Learn about the 3-month Abundant Creativity program and the self-paced webinars in compassion
- Find free resources here including guidance to give compassionate space to both critical and kind voices
- Follow Chetna @mosaiceye and the podcast @creationforliberation on instagram
E1. Creative Expression Soothes the Depression
In this very first episode of the Creation for Liberation podcast (!), we get into:
- The divinely-timed inception of the podcast
- Reaching out for community support as a source of inspiration
- Depression as it relates to swimming in the insane soup of oppressive social systems / separation as a cause for depression
- Seasons of depression in Chetna’s life when creativity played an important role in connection and meaning-making
- Eutimia’s wisdom on the causes of depression within colonization and according to indigenous and Chinese medicine
- Grief and loss associated with Chetna’s immigration
- Creativity defined as the flow of life force energy
- The fine line between creative genius and “coocoo crazy”
- The mason jar metaphor for creating space within our vessels through creative expression
- The role of cultural ceremony and ritual for connection in Chetna’s upbringing
- Eutimia’s perspective on the power of plaza, ceremony and movement in her upbringing
- Creativity as a portal to medicinal connection
Questions for reflection:
- What have you been separated or fragmented from that your spirit is longing to reconvene with? What ancestral ways, however accessible now, can you creatively tap into?
- How is creativity flowing for you already?
Reach out:
- Learn more about Eutimia Cruz Montaya and her offerings on Instagram and Patreon @musemedicina, and at www.musemedicina.com
- Learn more about Chetna’s offerings on Instagram and Patreon @mosaiceye, and at www.mosaiceyeunfolding.com
- Stay tuned with the podcast on Instagram @creationforliberation and at www.mosaiceyeunfolding.com/podcast
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